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	<title>Comments on: At Least They Didn&#8217;t Predict The End Of Libraries</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it is a relief that libraries wonâ€™t become obsolete, I have a lot more questions than warm and fuzzy feelings about futuristic techno-utopias and Second Life.

Regarding the idea of avatars guiding coursework, I have difficulty imagining such a scenario. I understand the desire to loosen the reign that human teachers have on classes, but I feel that the use of avatars would replace one â€œoppressiveâ€ form of teaching with another. These avatars might â€œknowâ€ what you need to get through a class, but the information students enter about themselves would necessarily be too superficial for real interaction. Getting into privacy issues, exactly how much information would one need to give to have a â€œtailor-madeâ€ course guide? I would not want an avatar to discount my complexity as a human being, or to have potentially sensitive information about my personal life. I prefer to use my own brains and tangential intellectual leaps, or to discuss things with a human (including the teacher). Avatars might be fine for â€œpaint by numberâ€ classes, but I have doubts about its practicality for classes that require thinking.

I guess Iâ€™m thinking about my â€œprofileâ€ on a number of websites. Iâ€™ll use Amazon as an example. The list of recommendations is based on very superficial information about the things I have ordered, written reviews about, and searched for under my account. However it does not understand my motivation for those actions. 

I would like to believe that things will be easy as technology becomes more advanced. Certainly, I donâ€™t mind the ease with which one can do the busywork in everyday life. I just object to the notion that technology will be our savior, or even our â€œfirst life.â€ 

And whatâ€™s the big deal about Second Life, anyway? The article still doesnâ€™t have me convinced. I donâ€™t think defying the laws of Physics is all that greatâ€¦ especially if one is in Physics class. (I suppose the teacher could use it as a â€œteaching moment,â€ which could get way off topic if too many people do too many physics-defying tricks.) Anyway, we get bamboozled enough as it is in the movies.  

I suppose one can develop a sense of community and collegiality in Second Life, but we have yet to see if virtual dune buggying does such a thing. Besides, if I want to practice dance moves at a Tiki bar, I would go to one in the real world, not in a virtual classroom. I could even have a couple of Mai Tais to loosen me up, which one cannot do in Second Life. (And whatâ€™s with the â€œretroâ€ stuff? I thought we were in the 21st Century!)

I do have to wonder about the overly-optimistic predictions of these futurists. In addition to Cynthia Crossenâ€™s article about predictions of the past, Siva Vaidhyanathan recently wrote something a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16442819/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;column&lt;/a&gt; about the futility of trying to predict the future (which inspired me to write an &lt;a href=&quot;http://pragmaticlibrarian.wordpress.com/2007/01/04/a-prediction-not/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;entry&lt;/a&gt; in my own blog), and how doubt rarely enters the minds of grand visionaries who talk about changes that will supposedly improve things.

I do not discount distance education. It certainly has the advantage of convenience, and it may offer the prospect of â€œhaving funâ€ while learning (however one defines that). Still, we have quite a bit of work to do in approximating the non-digital world. I doubt that we will reach that point in 25 years. In fact, it wouldnâ€™t surprise me if it took much longer.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it is a relief that libraries wonâ€™t become obsolete, I have a lot more questions than warm and fuzzy feelings about futuristic techno-utopias and Second Life.</p>
<p>Regarding the idea of avatars guiding coursework, I have difficulty imagining such a scenario. I understand the desire to loosen the reign that human teachers have on classes, but I feel that the use of avatars would replace one â€œoppressiveâ€ form of teaching with another. These avatars might â€œknowâ€ what you need to get through a class, but the information students enter about themselves would necessarily be too superficial for real interaction. Getting into privacy issues, exactly how much information would one need to give to have a â€œtailor-madeâ€ course guide? I would not want an avatar to discount my complexity as a human being, or to have potentially sensitive information about my personal life. I prefer to use my own brains and tangential intellectual leaps, or to discuss things with a human (including the teacher). Avatars might be fine for â€œpaint by numberâ€ classes, but I have doubts about its practicality for classes that require thinking.</p>
<p>I guess Iâ€™m thinking about my â€œprofileâ€ on a number of websites. Iâ€™ll use Amazon as an example. The list of recommendations is based on very superficial information about the things I have ordered, written reviews about, and searched for under my account. However it does not understand my motivation for those actions. </p>
<p>I would like to believe that things will be easy as technology becomes more advanced. Certainly, I donâ€™t mind the ease with which one can do the busywork in everyday life. I just object to the notion that technology will be our savior, or even our â€œfirst life.â€ </p>
<p>And whatâ€™s the big deal about Second Life, anyway? The article still doesnâ€™t have me convinced. I donâ€™t think defying the laws of Physics is all that greatâ€¦ especially if one is in Physics class. (I suppose the teacher could use it as a â€œteaching moment,â€ which could get way off topic if too many people do too many physics-defying tricks.) Anyway, we get bamboozled enough as it is in the movies.  </p>
<p>I suppose one can develop a sense of community and collegiality in Second Life, but we have yet to see if virtual dune buggying does such a thing. Besides, if I want to practice dance moves at a Tiki bar, I would go to one in the real world, not in a virtual classroom. I could even have a couple of Mai Tais to loosen me up, which one cannot do in Second Life. (And whatâ€™s with the â€œretroâ€ stuff? I thought we were in the 21st Century!)</p>
<p>I do have to wonder about the overly-optimistic predictions of these futurists. In addition to Cynthia Crossenâ€™s article about predictions of the past, Siva Vaidhyanathan recently wrote something a <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16442819/" rel="nofollow">column</a> about the futility of trying to predict the future (which inspired me to write an <a href="http://pragmaticlibrarian.wordpress.com/2007/01/04/a-prediction-not/" rel="nofollow">entry</a> in my own blog), and how doubt rarely enters the minds of grand visionaries who talk about changes that will supposedly improve things.</p>
<p>I do not discount distance education. It certainly has the advantage of convenience, and it may offer the prospect of â€œhaving funâ€ while learning (however one defines that). Still, we have quite a bit of work to do in approximating the non-digital world. I doubt that we will reach that point in 25 years. In fact, it wouldnâ€™t surprise me if it took much longer.</p>
<p>To be continuedâ€¦</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked at the WFS piece earlier...and decided not to even include it in the &quot;predictions and scorecards&quot; essay in the next C&amp;I. Look at the first prediction, and consider that most electricity costs about $0.10 per kilowatt-hour. Then look at how many of the predictions are based on &quot;You *can* do just one thing&quot; thinking--looking at one possibility without considering secondary impacts. I guess I&#039;ve lost interest in big-F Futurists of this ilk.

As to the &quot;death of campuses&quot; prediction--certainly not new--it ignores what for many of us was the primary reason to go away to college: Socialization and growing up. Distance learning makes more sense for graduate degrees and adult learning, where socialization is less of an issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at the WFS piece earlier&#8230;and decided not to even include it in the &#8220;predictions and scorecards&#8221; essay in the next C&amp;I. Look at the first prediction, and consider that most electricity costs about $0.10 per kilowatt-hour. Then look at how many of the predictions are based on &#8220;You *can* do just one thing&#8221; thinking&#8211;looking at one possibility without considering secondary impacts. I guess I&#8217;ve lost interest in big-F Futurists of this ilk.</p>
<p>As to the &#8220;death of campuses&#8221; prediction&#8211;certainly not new&#8211;it ignores what for many of us was the primary reason to go away to college: Socialization and growing up. Distance learning makes more sense for graduate degrees and adult learning, where socialization is less of an issue.</p>
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