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		<title>By: ken</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/07/30/a-hybrid-ala-for-2015/comment-page-1/#comment-97296</link>
		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over ten years ago when John Berry was president of ALA I chaired a task force he appointed to webcast the president&#039;s programs. It was planned to be the camel nose in the tent. It worked very well and the programs were available on the ALA archives. I used them in the online classes that I taught. The cost of each program (these were first off programs) was around $6,000. Many if not all programs are videod since ALA uses the big screens and the captioning for the audio disadvantaged. While I have had no official reasons presented as to why the program died out many of the people that seemed unenthusiastic about it were staff or officers who had their eyes on the revenue streams. 
I did propose a restructured financial model but it didn&#039;t get any traction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over ten years ago when John Berry was president of ALA I chaired a task force he appointed to webcast the president&#8217;s programs. It was planned to be the camel nose in the tent. It worked very well and the programs were available on the ALA archives. I used them in the online classes that I taught. The cost of each program (these were first off programs) was around $6,000. Many if not all programs are videod since ALA uses the big screens and the captioning for the audio disadvantaged. While I have had no official reasons presented as to why the program died out many of the people that seemed unenthusiastic about it were staff or officers who had their eyes on the revenue streams.<br />
I did propose a restructured financial model but it didn&#8217;t get any traction.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Dwyer</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/07/30/a-hybrid-ala-for-2015/comment-page-1/#comment-97070</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Dwyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quit attending ALA years ago precisely because of the ecological footstep problem. The proposal is agood start, but Midwinter shouild be entirely and exclusively electronic except for maybe Council and Exec Board. Please also consider that January is a difficult and hazardous time to travel in most of the US. I would love to attend electronically, but never, ever in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quit attending ALA years ago precisely because of the ecological footstep problem. The proposal is agood start, but Midwinter shouild be entirely and exclusively electronic except for maybe Council and Exec Board. Please also consider that January is a difficult and hazardous time to travel in most of the US. I would love to attend electronically, but never, ever in person.</p>
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		<title>By: Esther Grassian</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/07/30/a-hybrid-ala-for-2015/comment-page-1/#comment-96909</link>
		<dc:creator>Esther Grassian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate all of the positive comments and concerns about ALA e-participation. I was another of the speakers at this ALA discussion about e-participation, and just wanted to mention a few points. 

First, I spoke on the panel as a representative of the ACRL Instruction Section. If that Section is in itself at all representative of other ALA groups, then ALA is already functioning to some degree in a hybrid fashion. I talked about the Instruction Section&#039;s PRIMO committee that does all of its work asynchronously and does not meet at conferences. And I talked about the completely virtual Library School Outreach Task Force that I chaired for the Instruction Section. We never met in person either, and instead, for a year and a half, conducted all of our work through phone conference calls, email and a wiki. 

Prior to our last phone conference call, we found out that ALA considers phone conference calls to be meetings. The open meeting policy meant that I had to publicize the call in advance and invite participation. I did that and we had some welcome guests who listened in. The only issue was confidentiality, as we had solicited some information from library schools with a guarantee of confidentiality, so could not share that information with our guests. Confidentiality is an issue too, for groups like PRIMO that conduct &quot;peer review&quot; for online instructional materials, as well as for listserv and other discussions regarding personnel who may have applied for open positions,  as well as some other matters. 

When I spoke on Saturday at ALA, someone did raise the issue of revenue derived through conferences. He was concerned that ALA would lose money if it decided not to hold Midwinter Conferences in person, for instance. Someone (it may have been the same person, though I can&#039;t quite remember now) then said that ALA was already losing exhibitors as there were fewer people going through exhibits. 

All of that made me think that ALA needs to focus on its mission and figure out different funding streams, as has been suggested, rather than on the potential for lost revenue if e-participation is expanded. There are many people who can&#039;t afford to attend conferences, as has also been stated. Second Life does offer an excellent additional option to draw more people in, though we do need to be aware both of the access requirements (high capacity graphics card and high speed connection), and of the fact that simultaneous avatar capacity in a single location is limited to about 65. Satellite viewing within SL can help expand this capacity greatly, though, and you can participate through text or voice chat, as well as IM. Whether or not this will be a viable alternative in the long run remains to be seen, but IMHO, it&#039;s certainly worth exploring. 

ACRL will be holding the first of some planned panel discussions in SL on its site on the ALA Island on Tuesday, August 12th, 5 pm - 6 pm SLT (PDT), on starting an academic library in SL. Please join us there or ask a colleague in SL to project so you can listen and observe.
    Esther
    estherg@library.ucla.edu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate all of the positive comments and concerns about ALA e-participation. I was another of the speakers at this ALA discussion about e-participation, and just wanted to mention a few points. </p>
<p>First, I spoke on the panel as a representative of the ACRL Instruction Section. If that Section is in itself at all representative of other ALA groups, then ALA is already functioning to some degree in a hybrid fashion. I talked about the Instruction Section&#8217;s PRIMO committee that does all of its work asynchronously and does not meet at conferences. And I talked about the completely virtual Library School Outreach Task Force that I chaired for the Instruction Section. We never met in person either, and instead, for a year and a half, conducted all of our work through phone conference calls, email and a wiki. </p>
<p>Prior to our last phone conference call, we found out that ALA considers phone conference calls to be meetings. The open meeting policy meant that I had to publicize the call in advance and invite participation. I did that and we had some welcome guests who listened in. The only issue was confidentiality, as we had solicited some information from library schools with a guarantee of confidentiality, so could not share that information with our guests. Confidentiality is an issue too, for groups like PRIMO that conduct &#8220;peer review&#8221; for online instructional materials, as well as for listserv and other discussions regarding personnel who may have applied for open positions,  as well as some other matters. </p>
<p>When I spoke on Saturday at ALA, someone did raise the issue of revenue derived through conferences. He was concerned that ALA would lose money if it decided not to hold Midwinter Conferences in person, for instance. Someone (it may have been the same person, though I can&#8217;t quite remember now) then said that ALA was already losing exhibitors as there were fewer people going through exhibits. </p>
<p>All of that made me think that ALA needs to focus on its mission and figure out different funding streams, as has been suggested, rather than on the potential for lost revenue if e-participation is expanded. There are many people who can&#8217;t afford to attend conferences, as has also been stated. Second Life does offer an excellent additional option to draw more people in, though we do need to be aware both of the access requirements (high capacity graphics card and high speed connection), and of the fact that simultaneous avatar capacity in a single location is limited to about 65. Satellite viewing within SL can help expand this capacity greatly, though, and you can participate through text or voice chat, as well as IM. Whether or not this will be a viable alternative in the long run remains to be seen, but IMHO, it&#8217;s certainly worth exploring. </p>
<p>ACRL will be holding the first of some planned panel discussions in SL on its site on the ALA Island on Tuesday, August 12th, 5 pm &#8211; 6 pm SLT (PDT), on starting an academic library in SL. Please join us there or ask a colleague in SL to project so you can listen and observe.<br />
    Esther<br />
    <a href="mailto:estherg@library.ucla.edu">estherg@library.ucla.edu</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robin Ashford</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/07/30/a-hybrid-ala-for-2015/comment-page-1/#comment-96834</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Ashford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to comment on the statement above: &quot;I would not want to see large conferences moving to Second Life (SL), however (or other similar virtual worlds). &quot; The writer then mention the barriers for some due to hardware and bandwidth requirements. And this is currently true.  Though once SL and other virtual worlds work well on handheld devices (iPhone and smart iPhone like devices), then this barrier and many others related to the digital divide will begin to fade away (many expect that will occur within the next year or two). 

My prior post on using SL was meant as simply another avenue for people to attend conferences virtually, and one which enables people to have a closer to f2f experience than most other technologies. I felt that there could be more than one way to connect virtually to ALA conferences. For those who could not or chose not to use SL or other virtual worlds, there could also be other technologies used such as Elluminate, Adobe Connect, etc. 

I attended an ACRL event using Meebo a couple of months ago and it actually worked fairly well. There are many free or inexpensive ways to connect and network virtually these days. I look forward to the options future conferences may offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to comment on the statement above: &#8220;I would not want to see large conferences moving to Second Life (SL), however (or other similar virtual worlds). &#8221; The writer then mention the barriers for some due to hardware and bandwidth requirements. And this is currently true.  Though once SL and other virtual worlds work well on handheld devices (iPhone and smart iPhone like devices), then this barrier and many others related to the digital divide will begin to fade away (many expect that will occur within the next year or two). </p>
<p>My prior post on using SL was meant as simply another avenue for people to attend conferences virtually, and one which enables people to have a closer to f2f experience than most other technologies. I felt that there could be more than one way to connect virtually to ALA conferences. For those who could not or chose not to use SL or other virtual worlds, there could also be other technologies used such as Elluminate, Adobe Connect, etc. </p>
<p>I attended an ACRL event using Meebo a couple of months ago and it actually worked fairly well. There are many free or inexpensive ways to connect and network virtually these days. I look forward to the options future conferences may offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Willen Brown</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/07/30/a-hybrid-ala-for-2015/comment-page-1/#comment-96813</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Willen Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that might help move ALA along a bit faster is if we started having hybrid meetings of this type in our libraries. Many of my library colleagues work in other locations -- when we have all staff meetings, they are invited to join us by audio / conference call.  I&#039;d love to see us use technology (Skype, Second Life, or some web meeting software, etc) to facilitate and enhance these non-face-to-face meetings.  If libraries started doing this, we&#039;d collectively have a sense of how they worked and might be more wiling to try it for our national conferences. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that might help move ALA along a bit faster is if we started having hybrid meetings of this type in our libraries. Many of my library colleagues work in other locations &#8212; when we have all staff meetings, they are invited to join us by audio / conference call.  I&#8217;d love to see us use technology (Skype, Second Life, or some web meeting software, etc) to facilitate and enhance these non-face-to-face meetings.  If libraries started doing this, we&#8217;d collectively have a sense of how they worked and might be more wiling to try it for our national conferences.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/07/30/a-hybrid-ala-for-2015/comment-page-1/#comment-96725</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think there&#039;s an incredible value to face-to-face conferences. I&#039;m not sure virtual conferences alone can replace them. But Twitter has become a great way to stay connected to some friends who are colleagues, the kind of folks I&#039;d be most eager to see at a conferences, as well as a great way to connect with more established librarians. I&#039;m currently working on a proposal with another librarian whom I likely never would have met or approached outside of Twitter. 

I propose that virtual conferences, combined with the kind of professional networking that happens with blogs and Twitter or other social networks, could almost replace face-to-face. 

I would not want to see large conferences moving to Second Life, however (or other similar virtual worlds). There are too many additional barriers. For people in rural or international settings, the bandwidth could be a problem (I suspect this would be an issue for me in Egypt). 

And many might not have the right hardware on their computers. I worked at a well-funded ARL a little over a year ago and could not access Second Life on my work machine because it didn&#039;t have the right video card. And this was on a pretty new machine, nothing extraordinary but more than adequate for a reference and instruction librarian. 

Certain technologies seem ubiquitous when they aren&#039;t. My point is this: let&#039;s make sure we&#039;re not erecting new barriers when we dismantle the old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think there&#8217;s an incredible value to face-to-face conferences. I&#8217;m not sure virtual conferences alone can replace them. But Twitter has become a great way to stay connected to some friends who are colleagues, the kind of folks I&#8217;d be most eager to see at a conferences, as well as a great way to connect with more established librarians. I&#8217;m currently working on a proposal with another librarian whom I likely never would have met or approached outside of Twitter. </p>
<p>I propose that virtual conferences, combined with the kind of professional networking that happens with blogs and Twitter or other social networks, could almost replace face-to-face. </p>
<p>I would not want to see large conferences moving to Second Life, however (or other similar virtual worlds). There are too many additional barriers. For people in rural or international settings, the bandwidth could be a problem (I suspect this would be an issue for me in Egypt). </p>
<p>And many might not have the right hardware on their computers. I worked at a well-funded ARL a little over a year ago and could not access Second Life on my work machine because it didn&#8217;t have the right video card. And this was on a pretty new machine, nothing extraordinary but more than adequate for a reference and instruction librarian. </p>
<p>Certain technologies seem ubiquitous when they aren&#8217;t. My point is this: let&#8217;s make sure we&#8217;re not erecting new barriers when we dismantle the old.</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/07/30/a-hybrid-ala-for-2015/comment-page-1/#comment-96686</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an e-graduate of an LIS program and would love to attend ALA, but being new to the field I don&#039;t have the resources, and I&#039;m already feeling alienated from what&#039;s going on.  I read everything I can, but it doesn&#039;t replace interaction.  Virtual would be great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an e-graduate of an LIS program and would love to attend ALA, but being new to the field I don&#8217;t have the resources, and I&#8217;m already feeling alienated from what&#8217;s going on.  I read everything I can, but it doesn&#8217;t replace interaction.  Virtual would be great!</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/07/30/a-hybrid-ala-for-2015/comment-page-1/#comment-96682</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALA has a presence in Second Life. I was there while the conference in Anaheim was taking place along with a few others and we received reports from an ALA official in SL on what was taking place in Anaheim (there was a total of three ALA staff available for questions, etc.).  It would have been wonderful if the live event could have been streamed there (which is very doable). 

The cost for ALA to set something up by the next conference would be minimal, and by doing so would allow the growing number of librarians and library staff in Second Life to attend and participate. Those who have never been in Second Life could register ahead of time (free) and go through a basic orientation prior to the event. Virtual worlds are here to stay and this could be a good introduction for many who are not yet familiar.

There are also programs like Adobe Connect, Emmulate, etc. These are all useful and I have attended dozens of virtual seminars this way. However, those types of programs do not allow for the same level of interaction participants can experience in Second Life. The next ALA conference held in SL would be a progressive move and one many would appreciate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALA has a presence in Second Life. I was there while the conference in Anaheim was taking place along with a few others and we received reports from an ALA official in SL on what was taking place in Anaheim (there was a total of three ALA staff available for questions, etc.).  It would have been wonderful if the live event could have been streamed there (which is very doable). </p>
<p>The cost for ALA to set something up by the next conference would be minimal, and by doing so would allow the growing number of librarians and library staff in Second Life to attend and participate. Those who have never been in Second Life could register ahead of time (free) and go through a basic orientation prior to the event. Virtual worlds are here to stay and this could be a good introduction for many who are not yet familiar.</p>
<p>There are also programs like Adobe Connect, Emmulate, etc. These are all useful and I have attended dozens of virtual seminars this way. However, those types of programs do not allow for the same level of interaction participants can experience in Second Life. The next ALA conference held in SL would be a progressive move and one many would appreciate.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/07/30/a-hybrid-ala-for-2015/comment-page-1/#comment-96674</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone provide a link to the task force report?  I searched the ALA web site, but so far have not been able to unearth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone provide a link to the task force report?  I searched the ALA web site, but so far have not been able to unearth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A conference that has truly embraced the hybrid concept is the Next Web conference.  I stumbled upon the website mid-conference and was able to view amazing events and speakers in real time - even though the event was in Holland.  They use many types of web tools in very proactive ways and do it well.

http://2008.thenextweb.org/

I don&#039;t think it will even take us until 2015 to build a hybrid organization and convention.  And if it does, it will be a real shame.  We will be far behind the curve by then - as a profession we are smart enough to pull this off and crafty enough to find the resources to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A conference that has truly embraced the hybrid concept is the Next Web conference.  I stumbled upon the website mid-conference and was able to view amazing events and speakers in real time &#8211; even though the event was in Holland.  They use many types of web tools in very proactive ways and do it well.</p>
<p><a href="http://2008.thenextweb.org/" rel="nofollow">http://2008.thenextweb.org/</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it will even take us until 2015 to build a hybrid organization and convention.  And if it does, it will be a real shame.  We will be far behind the curve by then &#8211; as a profession we are smart enough to pull this off and crafty enough to find the resources to do it.</p>
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