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	<title>Comments on: Greenhorn mistake #1: Feeling responsible for everything</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Beder</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/11/07/greenhorn-mistake-1-feeling-responsible-for-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-109405</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Beder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved your article,
I feel like I have found a support group.
I am a new academic reference librarian
and I can relate to your points,
thanks and lets keep the dialogue going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved your article,<br />
I feel like I have found a support group.<br />
I am a new academic reference librarian<br />
and I can relate to your points,<br />
thanks and lets keep the dialogue going.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheryl Stahl</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/11/07/greenhorn-mistake-1-feeling-responsible-for-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-106866</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheryl Stahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find myself repeating the phrase &quot;I know that its really frustrating when ... the copier jams, the books isn&#039;t on the shelf, the computer doesn&#039;t cooperate, etc.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find myself repeating the phrase &#8220;I know that its really frustrating when &#8230; the copier jams, the books isn&#8217;t on the shelf, the computer doesn&#8217;t cooperate, etc.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/11/07/greenhorn-mistake-1-feeling-responsible-for-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-106069</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a new librarian, but I am new to public services.  Part of my new job at an &quot;elite&quot; liberal arts college is to provide service at the reference desk an hour or so a day.  (Really I&#039;m the acquisitions librarian but we all pitch in to cover the desk since &quot;non-degreed&quot; staff are not allowed to work the reference desk (which I find ridiculous but that is a whole other debate.)

I, too, have fallen into the trap of wanting to provide such great &quot;service,&quot; that I feel horrible when I can&#039;t give the students absolutely everything that they want, regardless of how out-of-my-hands it may be.  (And the funny thing is, this wanting to please everyone thing is SO not my usual personality, at all.)  My situation I face on a daily basis is kids not being able to find books that are supposed to be available but are not on the shelves.  I look in the re-shelving area... I ask them to look all around the area where the book should be... but beyond that, who knows where it is?  It could be lying around in any carrel, it could have been mis-shelved, it could have been stolen.  Sometimes there is just NO way to find a missing book, but students can get extremely upset (and understandably so.)  I&#039;m also NOT the one in the library who deals with filling copiers and printers with paper, or fixing paper jams (we have students and support staff for that) but somehow I always end up doing that, and I&#039;m no better at fixing jams than the students are, but they can get so angry when I can&#039;t fix it.

Talking this out with fellow librarians has helped me... for a short while, I worried that somehow I was not doing all that was expected of me, like somehow I was overlooking some obvious way to find the missing book, or whatever.  Then I realized everyone has the same problem and everyone feels bad when they can&#039;t help a student, but there&#039;s nothing you can do about it, so let it go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a new librarian, but I am new to public services.  Part of my new job at an &#8220;elite&#8221; liberal arts college is to provide service at the reference desk an hour or so a day.  (Really I&#8217;m the acquisitions librarian but we all pitch in to cover the desk since &#8220;non-degreed&#8221; staff are not allowed to work the reference desk (which I find ridiculous but that is a whole other debate.)</p>
<p>I, too, have fallen into the trap of wanting to provide such great &#8220;service,&#8221; that I feel horrible when I can&#8217;t give the students absolutely everything that they want, regardless of how out-of-my-hands it may be.  (And the funny thing is, this wanting to please everyone thing is SO not my usual personality, at all.)  My situation I face on a daily basis is kids not being able to find books that are supposed to be available but are not on the shelves.  I look in the re-shelving area&#8230; I ask them to look all around the area where the book should be&#8230; but beyond that, who knows where it is?  It could be lying around in any carrel, it could have been mis-shelved, it could have been stolen.  Sometimes there is just NO way to find a missing book, but students can get extremely upset (and understandably so.)  I&#8217;m also NOT the one in the library who deals with filling copiers and printers with paper, or fixing paper jams (we have students and support staff for that) but somehow I always end up doing that, and I&#8217;m no better at fixing jams than the students are, but they can get so angry when I can&#8217;t fix it.</p>
<p>Talking this out with fellow librarians has helped me&#8230; for a short while, I worried that somehow I was not doing all that was expected of me, like somehow I was overlooking some obvious way to find the missing book, or whatever.  Then I realized everyone has the same problem and everyone feels bad when they can&#8217;t help a student, but there&#8217;s nothing you can do about it, so let it go.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn R. Pukkila</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/11/07/greenhorn-mistake-1-feeling-responsible-for-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-105388</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn R. Pukkila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent summary of what I call the &quot;behind the counter&quot; syndrome.  When someone works behind a counter (or a desk, in this case), folks may cease to see them as a person and instead see them as either part of the problem or part of the solution -- when sometimes, we are neither!  Given the scarcity of empathy in our cultures (!), any chance to share a bit of it is probably a good thing.  Often I find that people really don&#039;t want me to *fix* their troubles (as if I could!), but simply to *witness* them, give them an attentive hearing.  Any time I can do that without compromising my professional responsibilities, I try to do so.  After all, as you say, one of the biggest perks of my job is the people I get to work with -- who are also one of the biggest headaches!  It all depends on the day, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent summary of what I call the &#8220;behind the counter&#8221; syndrome.  When someone works behind a counter (or a desk, in this case), folks may cease to see them as a person and instead see them as either part of the problem or part of the solution &#8212; when sometimes, we are neither!  Given the scarcity of empathy in our cultures (!), any chance to share a bit of it is probably a good thing.  Often I find that people really don&#8217;t want me to *fix* their troubles (as if I could!), but simply to *witness* them, give them an attentive hearing.  Any time I can do that without compromising my professional responsibilities, I try to do so.  After all, as you say, one of the biggest perks of my job is the people I get to work with &#8212; who are also one of the biggest headaches!  It all depends on the day, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same feeling. Maybe another level of library service? http://uptothecurve.blogspot.com/2008/11/echo-feeling-responsible-for-everything.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same feeling. Maybe another level of library service? <a href="http://uptothecurve.blogspot.com/2008/11/echo-feeling-responsible-for-everything.html" rel="nofollow">http://uptothecurve.blogspot.com/2008/11/echo-feeling-responsible-for-everything.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a judgement call some days.  If there is genuine ignorance displayed, it&#039;s easier to be empathetic.  A new student here is unlikely to know that their meal money can&#039;t make copies in the library.  If they don&#039;t have cash, I&#039;ll comp them if it&#039;s just a few pages.  

The students who get in my face and gripe about that over which I have no control?  I send them along to high muckety-muck with a &quot;that&#039;s above my pay grade.&quot;  I don&#039;t earn enough (even after 23 years) to take abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a judgement call some days.  If there is genuine ignorance displayed, it&#8217;s easier to be empathetic.  A new student here is unlikely to know that their meal money can&#8217;t make copies in the library.  If they don&#8217;t have cash, I&#8217;ll comp them if it&#8217;s just a few pages.  </p>
<p>The students who get in my face and gripe about that over which I have no control?  I send them along to high muckety-muck with a &#8220;that&#8217;s above my pay grade.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t earn enough (even after 23 years) to take abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Neerav from Australia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neerav from Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what you&#039;re doing is great

As a 1st year academic librarian myself I also take a genuine interest in all the questions students ask and try to give them the best possible customer service

My position description doesnt mention solving technology issues but I still try and solve them if theres no queue at the reference desk eg:

* fixing wireless access on a laptop computer, or 
* rescuing an assignment from a crashed PC 

Because I used to work in the IT tech support area I can do these with a high % of success

So go ahead and try and solve all the extra issues that are in your power to solve, just do it with confidence and make it clear you are providing a &quot;bonus service&quot; - you shouldnt have to apologise for stuffups by other staff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what you&#8217;re doing is great</p>
<p>As a 1st year academic librarian myself I also take a genuine interest in all the questions students ask and try to give them the best possible customer service</p>
<p>My position description doesnt mention solving technology issues but I still try and solve them if theres no queue at the reference desk eg:</p>
<p>* fixing wireless access on a laptop computer, or<br />
* rescuing an assignment from a crashed PC </p>
<p>Because I used to work in the IT tech support area I can do these with a high % of success</p>
<p>So go ahead and try and solve all the extra issues that are in your power to solve, just do it with confidence and make it clear you are providing a &#8220;bonus service&#8221; &#8211; you shouldnt have to apologise for stuffups by other staff</p>
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