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	<title>Comments on: Academic Research A Painful Process For Students</title>
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		<title>By: Daghead</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2009/02/18/academic-research-a-painful-process-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-187296</link>
		<dc:creator>Daghead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this at least makes me feel a little better about myself. I&#039;ve just begun to realize that I have practically no idea how to research a topic online, even though I&#039;ve always thought of myself pretty tech-inclined. I&#039;m lucky if I don&#039;t have a lot of trouble finding anything relevant with Google. 

Can anybody in the know point me to some of the most common deep research starting points, besides Wikipedia and EBSCO (which I can&#039;t access)? Thanks a lot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this at least makes me feel a little better about myself. I&#8217;ve just begun to realize that I have practically no idea how to research a topic online, even though I&#8217;ve always thought of myself pretty tech-inclined. I&#8217;m lucky if I don&#8217;t have a lot of trouble finding anything relevant with Google. </p>
<p>Can anybody in the know point me to some of the most common deep research starting points, besides Wikipedia and EBSCO (which I can&#8217;t access)? Thanks a lot!</p>
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		<title>By: Adventures in Wonderland</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2009/02/18/academic-research-a-painful-process-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-115708</link>
		<dc:creator>Adventures in Wonderland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Academic Research A Painful Process For Students [...]</description>
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		<title>By: breaking: fainting goat disease detected in student researchers &#171; Gonzobrarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>breaking: fainting goat disease detected in student researchers &#171; Gonzobrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3, 2009 &#183; No Comments  Apparently this is now is an epidemic on college and university campuses affecting students&#8217; ability to take notes and start their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 3, 2009 &middot; No Comments  Apparently this is now is an epidemic on college and university campuses affecting students&#8217; ability to take notes and start their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As it was mentioned:

&quot;On the downside many participants considered formal library instruction of little value to them - not because it wasnâ€™t helpful or informative but it was hard to recall what was learned when it was needed for an assignment.&quot;

Is it that hard for students to actually take notes during an instructional session?  This is similar to those students who start their research 2-3 days before it is due.  Sure, librarians can always do more to reach students&#039; research needs, but where do we draw the line when they have poor study habits to begin with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As it was mentioned:</p>
<p>&#8220;On the downside many participants considered formal library instruction of little value to them &#8211; not because it wasnâ€™t helpful or informative but it was hard to recall what was learned when it was needed for an assignment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is it that hard for students to actually take notes during an instructional session?  This is similar to those students who start their research 2-3 days before it is due.  Sure, librarians can always do more to reach students&#8217; research needs, but where do we draw the line when they have poor study habits to begin with?</p>
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		<title>By: Project Information Literacy - jak studenci korzystajÄ… z cyfrowych ÅºrÃ³deÅ‚ wiedzy? &#124; Historia i Media</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2009/02/18/academic-research-a-painful-process-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-114938</link>
		<dc:creator>Project Information Literacy - jak studenci korzystajÄ… z cyfrowych ÅºrÃ³deÅ‚ wiedzy? &#124; Historia i Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PeÅ‚na wersja raportu dostÄ™pna jest na stronie projectinfolit.org. Podsumowanie wynikÃ³w tej analizy znaleÅºÄ‡ moÅ¼na takÅ¼e na blogu ACRL - Association of College and Research Libraries. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] PeÅ‚na wersja raportu dostÄ™pna jest na stronie projectinfolit.org. Podsumowanie wynikÃ³w tej analizy znaleÅºÄ‡ moÅ¼na takÅ¼e na blogu ACRL &#8211; Association of College and Research Libraries. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alison J. Head</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2009/02/18/academic-research-a-painful-process-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-114839</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison J. Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Co-Author of the Project Information Literacy Progress Report, I do need to jump in and say â€œseems toâ€ in the introduction of our report relates to studentsâ€™ comments in discussion sessions, not ours. In the past, the challenge may have been to gain access to quality information, from what we heard.  Today, itâ€™s sifting through a lot more information and determining quality.  Same desired ends, but different processes. Is today more difficult? Possibly.  Students seem to think so. Thanks for taking the time to read our research and your interest in the study. Stay tuned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Co-Author of the Project Information Literacy Progress Report, I do need to jump in and say â€œseems toâ€ in the introduction of our report relates to studentsâ€™ comments in discussion sessions, not ours. In the past, the challenge may have been to gain access to quality information, from what we heard.  Today, itâ€™s sifting through a lot more information and determining quality.  Same desired ends, but different processes. Is today more difficult? Possibly.  Students seem to think so. Thanks for taking the time to read our research and your interest in the study. Stay tuned!</p>
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		<title>By: Is research more difficult in the digital age? &#171; Feral Librarian</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2009/02/18/academic-research-a-painful-process-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-114827</link>
		<dc:creator>Is research more difficult in the digital age? &#171; Feral Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a shame that the authors decided to highlight such a speculative conclusion (picked up by others), because the data they gather really do have the potential to tell us quite a bit about how [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marilyn R. Pukkila</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2009/02/18/academic-research-a-painful-process-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-114814</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn R. Pukkila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting idea, Laura!  I&#039;ll have to think about that one, and how I&#039;d schedule myself reminders of the various deadlines for all the classes I teach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea, Laura!  I&#8217;ll have to think about that one, and how I&#8217;d schedule myself reminders of the various deadlines for all the classes I teach.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Wimberley</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2009/02/18/academic-research-a-painful-process-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-114690</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Wimberley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sarah - this report does highlight the need for &quot;just in time&quot; reference, including virtual/IM reference.

Another relatively easy to implement solution might be to use email to follow up on bibliographic instruction.  If the thorough, hour long session early on in the semester is only helpful to the most motivated students, how about sending out a follow up email with a reminder link to select resources a week before the assignment is due - and perhaps another email with an abbreviated version 48 hours before?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sarah &#8211; this report does highlight the need for &#8220;just in time&#8221; reference, including virtual/IM reference.</p>
<p>Another relatively easy to implement solution might be to use email to follow up on bibliographic instruction.  If the thorough, hour long session early on in the semester is only helpful to the most motivated students, how about sending out a follow up email with a reminder link to select resources a week before the assignment is due &#8211; and perhaps another email with an abbreviated version 48 hours before?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think this research has a lot of implications for reference, as much as it does instruction. This research sends a giant message to those folks who keep trumpeting &quot;the reference desk is dead!&quot; Actually it looks like it is needed more than ever. We can&#039;t schedule instruction sessions for the class on the Sunday night before the paper is do, but we can have a librarian ready to help at that critical point of need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think this research has a lot of implications for reference, as much as it does instruction. This research sends a giant message to those folks who keep trumpeting &#8220;the reference desk is dead!&#8221; Actually it looks like it is needed more than ever. We can&#8217;t schedule instruction sessions for the class on the Sunday night before the paper is do, but we can have a librarian ready to help at that critical point of need.</p>
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