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	<title>Comments on: Encouraging Engagement</title>
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		<title>By: Maura Smale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maura Smale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all of these comments, everyone, they&#039;re great food for thought. I&#039;d definitely like to expand our instruction into more upper level classes -- we do some now but our coverage could be broader.

That&#039;s a great point about choosing a research topic, too, Kyri. My gut wants to believe that students may be more interested in a topic of their choosing. But I also see that it can be very hard for them to narrow down to an appropriate topic when they&#039;re given the universe to choose from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all of these comments, everyone, they&#8217;re great food for thought. I&#8217;d definitely like to expand our instruction into more upper level classes &#8212; we do some now but our coverage could be broader.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a great point about choosing a research topic, too, Kyri. My gut wants to believe that students may be more interested in a topic of their choosing. But I also see that it can be very hard for them to narrow down to an appropriate topic when they&#8217;re given the universe to choose from.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyri Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyri Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also found that scheduling tutorials just when students are starting their research keeps them focused and allows them to find materials for that specific assignment. Having the faculty member actively assisting is also very helpful, especially in keeping students on task. Students who have had a previous tutorial are often bored and disruptive, though, even though the assignment is different and they will still need to gather information for it.

One of the pitfalls I&#039;ve found is that students are too locked in to a research topic before they come in. They haven&#039;t done any preliminary reading and don&#039;t know if their chosen topic is well-represented in the library collection or if it is even a valid or meaningful research question. With our students, who are community college students, I would prefer to see faculty assign specific topics/questions rather than letting the students flounder around trying to choose one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also found that scheduling tutorials just when students are starting their research keeps them focused and allows them to find materials for that specific assignment. Having the faculty member actively assisting is also very helpful, especially in keeping students on task. Students who have had a previous tutorial are often bored and disruptive, though, even though the assignment is different and they will still need to gather information for it.</p>
<p>One of the pitfalls I&#8217;ve found is that students are too locked in to a research topic before they come in. They haven&#8217;t done any preliminary reading and don&#8217;t know if their chosen topic is well-represented in the library collection or if it is even a valid or meaningful research question. With our students, who are community college students, I would prefer to see faculty assign specific topics/questions rather than letting the students flounder around trying to choose one.</p>
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		<title>By: joan</title>
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		<dc:creator>joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barbara, I agree. I&#039;m beginning to think we need to step back from teaching first-year students, and instead educate their instructors, and focus our classroom teaching on upper-level classes, especially in majors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara, I agree. I&#8217;m beginning to think we need to step back from teaching first-year students, and instead educate their instructors, and focus our classroom teaching on upper-level classes, especially in majors.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my earliest experiences with a truly, deeply engaged group of first years was when the teacher thought they could do research without any help. They failed spectacularly. When he hastily scheduled a session to repair the damage they were really paying attention! 

But I&#039;m growing more and more convinced that beginners are going through the ropes because they&#039;re in boot camp and they have to do something that has no purpose other than to prepare them to do something meaningful later. In most institutions, their drill sergeants are often adjunct faculty and TAs who have (unfortunately) low status and are seen as providing a service to the institution by getting students ready to do academic work. The work they do in the class is not, itself, valued except as practice for the real thing, which in actual practice often looks very different. Richard Larson&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jstor.org/stable/377337&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;classic essay&lt;/a&gt; on the topic remains valuable a quarter of a century after it was published. 

Students seem so much more ready to be interested and engaged when they are working in their majors and have some contextual knowledge and a purpose in mind - when they&#039;re doing more meaningful research, not just learning how to write a generic research paper. While being able to &quot;reach&quot; every student through a generic writing course seems important and takes up much of librarians&#039; energies, I sometimes think we could actually &lt;i&gt;reach&lt;/i&gt; students more successfully in upper division courses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my earliest experiences with a truly, deeply engaged group of first years was when the teacher thought they could do research without any help. They failed spectacularly. When he hastily scheduled a session to repair the damage they were really paying attention! </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m growing more and more convinced that beginners are going through the ropes because they&#8217;re in boot camp and they have to do something that has no purpose other than to prepare them to do something meaningful later. In most institutions, their drill sergeants are often adjunct faculty and TAs who have (unfortunately) low status and are seen as providing a service to the institution by getting students ready to do academic work. The work they do in the class is not, itself, valued except as practice for the real thing, which in actual practice often looks very different. Richard Larson&#8217;s <a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/377337" rel="nofollow">classic essay</a> on the topic remains valuable a quarter of a century after it was published. </p>
<p>Students seem so much more ready to be interested and engaged when they are working in their majors and have some contextual knowledge and a purpose in mind &#8211; when they&#8217;re doing more meaningful research, not just learning how to write a generic research paper. While being able to &#8220;reach&#8221; every student through a generic writing course seems important and takes up much of librarians&#8217; energies, I sometimes think we could actually <i>reach</i> students more successfully in upper division courses.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon Librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The university librarians at my institution are direct liaisons between the library and the English Department&#039;s writing program courses. There is extensive collaboration between faculty and the university librarians; course pedagogy, syllabi, and even the training of new instructors are collectively done by both populations. The bibliographic instruction sessions are also a training ground for graduate students studying Library and Information Science, who run the class workshops on occasion. Both the faculty and the university librarians work together as equals, educating the undergraduate population in the rudiments of information literacy, academic research and academic writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The university librarians at my institution are direct liaisons between the library and the English Department&#8217;s writing program courses. There is extensive collaboration between faculty and the university librarians; course pedagogy, syllabi, and even the training of new instructors are collectively done by both populations. The bibliographic instruction sessions are also a training ground for graduate students studying Library and Information Science, who run the class workshops on occasion. Both the faculty and the university librarians work together as equals, educating the undergraduate population in the rudiments of information literacy, academic research and academic writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica Berger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often try to draw classroom faculty into the session by asking them questions or asking for their comments. And it feels more comfortable and integrated to everyone, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often try to draw classroom faculty into the session by asking them questions or asking for their comments. And it feels more comfortable and integrated to everyone, I think.</p>
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