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		<title>By: Blazerilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blazerilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about expereinced librarians looking for work? I was the director of an academic library when my husband lost his job over a year ago. He got a great new job 1,000 miles away in desolate Kansas. I gave up my job, figuring that my education (MLIS plus finishing a doctorate), experience, and strong record of accomplishment along with very impressive references and recommendations would get me something. In a year I have had two interviews, and nothing. We are still struggling because of my unemployment. New grads aren&#039;t the only ones with a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about expereinced librarians looking for work? I was the director of an academic library when my husband lost his job over a year ago. He got a great new job 1,000 miles away in desolate Kansas. I gave up my job, figuring that my education (MLIS plus finishing a doctorate), experience, and strong record of accomplishment along with very impressive references and recommendations would get me something. In a year I have had two interviews, and nothing. We are still struggling because of my unemployment. New grads aren&#8217;t the only ones with a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: So You Want to be a Librarian? A Guide For Those Considering an MLS, Current Students &#38; Job Seekers &#124; Librarian by Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>So You Want to be a Librarian? A Guide For Those Considering an MLS, Current Students &#38; Job Seekers &#124; Librarian by Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] g- etting support from the library community when it seems you&#8217;ll never get a job&#8221;. http://acrlog.org/2010/03/23/this-librarians-blog-name-says-it-all/   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] g- etting support from the library community when it seems you&#8217;ll never get a job&#8221;. <a href="http://acrlog.org/2010/03/23/this-librarians-blog-name-says-it-all/" rel="nofollow">http://acrlog.org/2010/03/23/this-librarians-blog-name-says-it-all/</a>   [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MBA Lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>MBA Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many advices I have found here and actually no real stories from your personal experience. Perhaps that is what young people need - not suggestions how to succeed but some kind of encouragement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many advices I have found here and actually no real stories from your personal experience. Perhaps that is what young people need &#8211; not suggestions how to succeed but some kind of encouragement.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Verdak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Verdak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 03:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iâ€™ve found that working as an adult reference librarian in a public library near both a university and community college lets me develop my academic reference skills.  I know academic reference from working as a paraprofessional at a university when I was in grad school.  I find that I can work in academic information literacy competencies (or motifs) in a public library setting.  This academic mode (if you will) also works well with high school students.  Thus I think public reference librarians can gain quasi-academic experience, if you work close to universities/colleges and high schools and consciously apply academic reference and instruction competencies and goals (information literacy is my rubric).  Taking a paraprofessional academic position, as I did, was also a beneficial move.  

Also stay current with developments and trends in the academic library literature and in academic blogs.  Talk the talk and more importantly know the talk.  Develop a professional vision and body of tangible achievements/projects or innovations.  If you have a non-academic librarian or even academic paraprofessional position:  take on and develop projects, join committees and work-groups, advance solutions and innovations up the line, ask to attend conferences, etc.  These help budding librarians and future librarians develop their passions, unique talents, and innovations. 

Iâ€™ve also been on a hiring committee and a cover letter with a focused, well-made case for why you want and are qualified for a position goes a long way to getting an interview.  I could easily detect rote, standardized, fill in the blanks cover letters and resumes that were not tailored for the position or that didnâ€™t make a specific case.  These are miles away from cover letters and resumes that show youâ€™ve done your research, thought it through, and make a compelling case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iâ€™ve found that working as an adult reference librarian in a public library near both a university and community college lets me develop my academic reference skills.  I know academic reference from working as a paraprofessional at a university when I was in grad school.  I find that I can work in academic information literacy competencies (or motifs) in a public library setting.  This academic mode (if you will) also works well with high school students.  Thus I think public reference librarians can gain quasi-academic experience, if you work close to universities/colleges and high schools and consciously apply academic reference and instruction competencies and goals (information literacy is my rubric).  Taking a paraprofessional academic position, as I did, was also a beneficial move.  </p>
<p>Also stay current with developments and trends in the academic library literature and in academic blogs.  Talk the talk and more importantly know the talk.  Develop a professional vision and body of tangible achievements/projects or innovations.  If you have a non-academic librarian or even academic paraprofessional position:  take on and develop projects, join committees and work-groups, advance solutions and innovations up the line, ask to attend conferences, etc.  These help budding librarians and future librarians develop their passions, unique talents, and innovations. </p>
<p>Iâ€™ve also been on a hiring committee and a cover letter with a focused, well-made case for why you want and are qualified for a position goes a long way to getting an interview.  I could easily detect rote, standardized, fill in the blanks cover letters and resumes that were not tailored for the position or that didnâ€™t make a specific case.  These are miles away from cover letters and resumes that show youâ€™ve done your research, thought it through, and make a compelling case.</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Elizabeth. 
Everyone I know who succeeded in getting an academic job did exactly as you suggest. Most experienced 1%-3% response to applications. They just kept at it.

Another route is one I took. Para-professional. 3 months off every summer. Invest in your life the energy you might have invested in your work.

There are so many MLIS degrees on the market that at the Univ here 90+% of ref desk hours are done by para-professional staff. This may not be the future at the best places but it may be the future at MOST places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Elizabeth.<br />
Everyone I know who succeeded in getting an academic job did exactly as you suggest. Most experienced 1%-3% response to applications. They just kept at it.</p>
<p>Another route is one I took. Para-professional. 3 months off every summer. Invest in your life the energy you might have invested in your work.</p>
<p>There are so many MLIS degrees on the market that at the Univ here 90+% of ref desk hours are done by para-professional staff. This may not be the future at the best places but it may be the future at MOST places.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can offer something a bit more than advice...

I will have a job opening in the Barstow College Library starting in April, pending unfortunate budget-related action by administration, but this position is one I can&#039;t run the library without, so I trust it will be replaced (the incumbent is retiring.)

It is Library Technician 2, a staff, not faculty, position. It is full-time. Applicants MUST be able to perform MARC cataloging of books, e-materials, and DVDs. The position also involves acquisitions (lots of contact with vendors), supervising a student worker, back-end systems admin work with the OPAC, and some circulation desk work.

Obviously this is a position that would normally go to someone with experience, but I would consider a recent graduate if you can show me that you can do the cataloging.
 
I will also hopefully have a part-time circulation desk staff position opening up soon.

Other than that, good luck... the economy is terrible and I&#039;m very glad and lucky that I have tenure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can offer something a bit more than advice&#8230;</p>
<p>I will have a job opening in the Barstow College Library starting in April, pending unfortunate budget-related action by administration, but this position is one I can&#8217;t run the library without, so I trust it will be replaced (the incumbent is retiring.)</p>
<p>It is Library Technician 2, a staff, not faculty, position. It is full-time. Applicants MUST be able to perform MARC cataloging of books, e-materials, and DVDs. The position also involves acquisitions (lots of contact with vendors), supervising a student worker, back-end systems admin work with the OPAC, and some circulation desk work.</p>
<p>Obviously this is a position that would normally go to someone with experience, but I would consider a recent graduate if you can show me that you can do the cataloging.</p>
<p>I will also hopefully have a part-time circulation desk staff position opening up soon.</p>
<p>Other than that, good luck&#8230; the economy is terrible and I&#8217;m very glad and lucky that I have tenure.</p>
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		<title>By: CS</title>
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		<dc:creator>CS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add to Celia&#039;s comment:

I have been on numerous search committees in recent years.  Tailor your letter not just to the library, as Celia says, but to the position.  Why do you want this particular position? If you&#039;re moving from being a cataloger into technology- why?    And for goodness sake, look at the list of required and preferred qualifications; anything listed that isn&#039;t on your resume needs to be addressed in your cover letter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to Celia&#8217;s comment:</p>
<p>I have been on numerous search committees in recent years.  Tailor your letter not just to the library, as Celia says, but to the position.  Why do you want this particular position? If you&#8217;re moving from being a cataloger into technology- why?    And for goodness sake, look at the list of required and preferred qualifications; anything listed that isn&#8217;t on your resume needs to be addressed in your cover letter.</p>
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		<title>By: jm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received my MLS in May 2009 and started a job at an academic library in October (my first offer).  Judging from the experiences of myself and my library school friends, who have more or less all found library jobs since then, my number one piece of advice is to be willing to move anywhere for your first job (if you&#039;re able to).  I think flexibility and mobility are keys in the academic world.  Myself and many of my friends moved to places we weren&#039;t excited about living in, but we&#039;re all dealing with it pretty well and gaining good experience for when we start applying for our &quot;dream jobs&quot; in another year or two.  I think they call it &quot;paying your dues&quot;. :)    

I think if you&#039;re tied down to a particular geographic area due to family or other obligations, realistically you just have to be prepared for the job search to take significantly longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received my MLS in May 2009 and started a job at an academic library in October (my first offer).  Judging from the experiences of myself and my library school friends, who have more or less all found library jobs since then, my number one piece of advice is to be willing to move anywhere for your first job (if you&#8217;re able to).  I think flexibility and mobility are keys in the academic world.  Myself and many of my friends moved to places we weren&#8217;t excited about living in, but we&#8217;re all dealing with it pretty well and gaining good experience for when we start applying for our &#8220;dream jobs&#8221; in another year or two.  I think they call it &#8220;paying your dues&#8221;. <img src='http://acrlog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />     </p>
<p>I think if you&#8217;re tied down to a particular geographic area due to family or other obligations, realistically you just have to be prepared for the job search to take significantly longer.</p>
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		<title>By: JJR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately the same scarcity of jobs for newly minted PhD academics has apparently caught up to academic librarianship as well.  I can only tell Elizabeth that applying for jobs is a full time job...you should keep a running file of all jobs applied for, rejections, etc.  Probably it would be good to churn out an application once a day or more frequently if you can manage.  I applied to so many positions during my job search; eventually you&#039;ll get a phone interview here and there and not make the next cut, but it&#039;s all valuable practice.  I am back to being unemployed but have held 2 professional positions so far in my brief library career.  My challenge is that I started out in Cataloging, and try as I might, I just couldn&#039;t ever feel comfortable in the job and the rare chances I got to do some Reference work really lifted me up...I realized I need to be at the Reference Desk and not locked away in Tech Services...but now I have to convince a search committee of that out there somewhere.  I&#039;ve phone interviewed for Reference jobs before but the only face-to-face interviews I got were for cataloging positions.  I was a finalist (top 4) for a job in South Carolina and had an on-campus interview, but I didn&#039;t make it.  No, they didn&#039;t send me a rejection either but I did finally call to get the bad news.  They had to go with another candidate with more experience.  It happens.  One cataloging position I interviewed for in Missouri, also on campus--it was a small community college and they were wanting the successful candidate to take over as director after one year--a suggestion which I balked at, and that eliminated me from further consideration; but in the end probably a good move for both of us.  I&#039;m sure they hired someone more confident and ready to take the reins like that rather than a newbie like me fresh out of library school.

I am trying to focus on Reference jobs now, but I do sometimes send out cover letter/resume to choice cataloging positions that appeal to me.  I was lucky during my first two searches to be gainfully employed with a large insurance company that I&#039;d worked for off and on for the better part of 10 years.  No such luck this time around, as that company is under a promotion and hiring freeze and can&#039;t take me back even though they want to.
I&#039;m giving some serious thought to getting into Law Enforcement as an alternative career as I&#039;m not getting any younger, and I could use the steadier (and higher) paycheck and better retirement package.  I also think I need a job that&#039;s not bound to a desk all the time (the way cataloging is).

I&#039;m very fortunate to be able to move back in with my parents after losing my latest Academic library gig.  I&#039;d be really screwed without that familial social safety net.  I also kick myself for not getting School library certification on my way to earning my MLS, because I&#039;d definitely accept a librarian gig in a High School or Middle School if I had the proper credentials.  I have the teacher certification, but not the school library one, and it&#039;d be prohibitively expensive to go back and get it now, unless a school district were willing to hire me with the understanding that I would go back and get it as soon as possible while employing me conditionally as their librarian.

I&#039;ve applied to public libraries to but those applications go nowhere for me.  I&#039;ve never even phone-interviewed for any public library position that I&#039;ve applied to in the past, and only seldom even received any acknowledgment that they received my application.  I wonder if I&#039;ve kind of &quot;typecast&quot; myself as an Academic Librarian to the extent that Public Libraries just aren&#039;t interested in what I have to offer.  I don&#039;t know.  I have a second Masters, but that&#039;s depressingly common now.

All you can do is keep trying, but in the meantime take any b.s. office job to pay the bills.  Keep thinking like an information professional and see if you can contribute to a corporate workplace by offering a better way to organize information, etc.
You gotta sell yourself at every opportunity.

It&#039;s tough out there for everybody, even people like me with 2.5 years experience under our belts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately the same scarcity of jobs for newly minted PhD academics has apparently caught up to academic librarianship as well.  I can only tell Elizabeth that applying for jobs is a full time job&#8230;you should keep a running file of all jobs applied for, rejections, etc.  Probably it would be good to churn out an application once a day or more frequently if you can manage.  I applied to so many positions during my job search; eventually you&#8217;ll get a phone interview here and there and not make the next cut, but it&#8217;s all valuable practice.  I am back to being unemployed but have held 2 professional positions so far in my brief library career.  My challenge is that I started out in Cataloging, and try as I might, I just couldn&#8217;t ever feel comfortable in the job and the rare chances I got to do some Reference work really lifted me up&#8230;I realized I need to be at the Reference Desk and not locked away in Tech Services&#8230;but now I have to convince a search committee of that out there somewhere.  I&#8217;ve phone interviewed for Reference jobs before but the only face-to-face interviews I got were for cataloging positions.  I was a finalist (top 4) for a job in South Carolina and had an on-campus interview, but I didn&#8217;t make it.  No, they didn&#8217;t send me a rejection either but I did finally call to get the bad news.  They had to go with another candidate with more experience.  It happens.  One cataloging position I interviewed for in Missouri, also on campus&#8211;it was a small community college and they were wanting the successful candidate to take over as director after one year&#8211;a suggestion which I balked at, and that eliminated me from further consideration; but in the end probably a good move for both of us.  I&#8217;m sure they hired someone more confident and ready to take the reins like that rather than a newbie like me fresh out of library school.</p>
<p>I am trying to focus on Reference jobs now, but I do sometimes send out cover letter/resume to choice cataloging positions that appeal to me.  I was lucky during my first two searches to be gainfully employed with a large insurance company that I&#8217;d worked for off and on for the better part of 10 years.  No such luck this time around, as that company is under a promotion and hiring freeze and can&#8217;t take me back even though they want to.<br />
I&#8217;m giving some serious thought to getting into Law Enforcement as an alternative career as I&#8217;m not getting any younger, and I could use the steadier (and higher) paycheck and better retirement package.  I also think I need a job that&#8217;s not bound to a desk all the time (the way cataloging is).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very fortunate to be able to move back in with my parents after losing my latest Academic library gig.  I&#8217;d be really screwed without that familial social safety net.  I also kick myself for not getting School library certification on my way to earning my MLS, because I&#8217;d definitely accept a librarian gig in a High School or Middle School if I had the proper credentials.  I have the teacher certification, but not the school library one, and it&#8217;d be prohibitively expensive to go back and get it now, unless a school district were willing to hire me with the understanding that I would go back and get it as soon as possible while employing me conditionally as their librarian.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve applied to public libraries to but those applications go nowhere for me.  I&#8217;ve never even phone-interviewed for any public library position that I&#8217;ve applied to in the past, and only seldom even received any acknowledgment that they received my application.  I wonder if I&#8217;ve kind of &#8220;typecast&#8221; myself as an Academic Librarian to the extent that Public Libraries just aren&#8217;t interested in what I have to offer.  I don&#8217;t know.  I have a second Masters, but that&#8217;s depressingly common now.</p>
<p>All you can do is keep trying, but in the meantime take any b.s. office job to pay the bills.  Keep thinking like an information professional and see if you can contribute to a corporate workplace by offering a better way to organize information, etc.<br />
You gotta sell yourself at every opportunity.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s tough out there for everybody, even people like me with 2.5 years experience under our belts.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Celia, thank you. That is fantastic advice. Straight and to the point. I never thought about it before, but I HAVE been rehashing my CV in my cover letter.  All I do is talk about myself. I never even mention the job I&#039;m applying for at all. What was I thinking?!

Thank you, thank you for the extremely helpful advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celia, thank you. That is fantastic advice. Straight and to the point. I never thought about it before, but I HAVE been rehashing my CV in my cover letter.  All I do is talk about myself. I never even mention the job I&#8217;m applying for at all. What was I thinking?!</p>
<p>Thank you, thank you for the extremely helpful advice.</p>
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